I've refreshed the list of Canadian and U.S. Net Net stocks due to
popular demand. These are stocks trading at a discount to current
assets less all liabilities. Ben Graham originally suggested stocks
trading at 66% of their Net Net value. I was a little more generous
and started my search at 70% or less of Net Net. (Net Net = current
assets less all liabilities).
It should come as no surprise that there are relatively few Net Net
candidates and they tend to be very small stocks indeed. Currently,
there are about 670 candidates world-wide according to Bloomberg. But
data on these very small stocks tends to be uneven at best. Indeed,
looking for Net Nets can be a good way to uncover database errors or
bankrupt companies. Nonetheless, you can occasionally spot a gem or
two.
But, before diving in, make sure you go the extra mile to check the
data and beware that many of these stocks are extraordinarily
illiquid. In such cases, market orders can lead to poverty. Buying
stocks indiscriminately from a Net Net list can be dangerous.
If it's dangerous, why bother? Because the returns have been quite
good as Montier showed in his article "Graham's net-nets: outdated or
outstanding?" which can be found in his book "Value Investing".
(Hint: The answer is outstanding.) You just have to sort through the
dross.
The two tables below present raw data. To help discriminate between
the bankrupt companies and those that are not quite dead yet, I've
sorted them by Market Capitalization from high to low. It's not
perfect but broken companies usually appear lower down on the list.
Also, for NASDAQ stocks, a trailing Q in a 5 letter ticker symbol is a
bad sign.
Here are, the surprisingly long, lists of Canadian and U.S. stocks that
pass the Net Net test ...
Our Stingy
Stock method is very popular and, we're pleased to say, that it
has also been highly profitable. Just take a look at the results thus
far for the 2010 crop of stocks.
After the huge run, it won't surprise you that we've had several
requests for updates from keen investors. But before revealing the
current (interim) list of Stingy Stocks, let's take a quick look at
some of the criteria we used to find them.
Stingy Stock Criteria
1. A member of the S&P500
2. Debt-to-Equity Ratio less than or equal to 0.5
3. Current Ratio of more than 2
4. Interest Coverage of more than 2
5. Some Cash Flow from Operations
6. Some Earnings
7. Price to Sales ratio of less than 1
You can learn even more about the approach by perusing last fall's article.
Vito Maida runs Patient
Capital Management which is a conservative value-oriented
investment counsel firm based in Toronto. His most recent quarterly
letter indicates that he appears to be less than bullish ...
"However, these bailouts will not be without consequences; sovereign
global debt will rise, currencies will devalue and trade wars are
likely to erupt. As a result, global economic recovery will take
longer and growth will be slower than expected. In addition, inflation
and higher interest rates become an increasing risk. In the past, such
conditions have not been positive for broad based equity
indices. These serious economic problems combined with equity
valuations pushing the upper limit of their historical range spell
RISK to us."
The high net worth portfolios that Patient Capital manages were about
35% in cash earlier this week. You might consider that a bearish
stance. But Vito is well known for having even higher cash
allocations. Particularly before the big crash in the late 2000s.
He has also been a little shy about revealing the stocks that he holds
in his portfolio. (That's not at all uncommon for investment counsel
firms. After all, they're selling their investment expertise and are
loathe to give it away for free.)
However, Vito recently started managing the Horizons
AlphaPro North American Value ETF (HAV). (The fund's mandate
requires cash levels of at most 25% and at the end of April they were
sitting at 22.4%.) HAV lets investors peak in on Vito's picks. At
the end of April 2010, the ETF's top 10 stock holdings accounted for 50.9%
of the portfolio and were ...
1 CBS CORP 5.68%
2 LOWES 5.61%
3 GENERAL DYNAMICS 5.15%
4 US BANCORP 5.11%
5 BCE INC 5.08%
6 CINTAS 5.00%
7 STRYKER 4.96%
8 DIAGEO PLC ADR 4.84%
9 HEWLETT PACKARD 4.84%
10 JOHNSON & JOHNSON 4.63%
With stocks sagging, it's time to buff up your watch list of quality
companies. That way, you might be able to snag a few should they fall
well into bargain territory. Vito's list is a good place to start.
I've refreshed the list of Canadian and U.S. Net Net stocks due to
popular demand. These are stocks trading at a discount to current
assets less all liabilities. Ben Graham originally suggested stocks
trading at 66% of their Net Net value. I was a little more generous
and started my search at 70% or less of Net Net. (Net Net = current
assets less all liabilities).
It should come as no surprise that there are relatively few Net Net
candidates and they tend to be very small stocks indeed. Currently,
there are about 600 candidates world-wide according to Bloomberg. But
data on these very small stocks tends to be uneven at best. Indeed,
looking for Net Nets can be a good way to uncover database errors or
bankrupt companies. Nonetheless, you can occasionally spot a gem or
two.
But, before diving in, make sure you go the extra mile to check the
data and beware that many of these stocks are extraordinarily
illiquid. In such cases, market orders can lead to poverty. Buying
stocks indiscriminately from a Net Net list can be dangerous.
If it's dangerous, why bother? Because the returns have been quite
good as Montier showed in his article "Graham's net-nets: outdated or
outstanding?" which can be found in his book "Value Investing".
(Hint: The answer is outstanding.) You just have to sort through the
dross.
The two tables below present raw data. To help discriminate between
the bankrupt companies and those that are not quite dead yet, I've
sorted them by Market Capitalization from high to low. It's not
perfect but broken companies usually appear lower down on the list.
Also, for NASDAQ stocks, a trailing Q in a 5 letter ticker symbol is a
bad sign.
Here are, the surprisingly long, lists of Canadian and U.S. stocks that
pass the Net Net test ...
Biglari Holdings's (BH) Biglari wasn't content with slapping his name
on a company he recently gained control of. No siree. He also moved
to line his pockets with a big performance fee . . .
"The Incentive Bonus Agreement provides Mr. Biglari the opportunity to
receive annual incentive compensation payments based on the Company's
book value growth for each fiscal year. If the Company exceeds a 5%
annual book value growth hurdle, Mr. Biglari would receive an
incentive compensation payment equal to 25% of the Company's book
value in excess of that hurdle."
But it turns out that investors aren't nearly as keen and have been
dumping shares this week after the fee was announced last Friday
...
Last week I was sifting through Net Net stocks. These are stocks
trading at a discount to current assets less all liabilities. Ben
Graham originally suggested stocks trading at 66% of their Net Net
value. I was a little more generous and started my search at 70% or
less of Net Net. (Net Net = current assets less all liabilities).
It should come as no surprise that there are relatively few Net Net candidates
and they tend to be very small stocks indeed. But as I mentioned to Ian,
Graham's value stocks do exist.
Currently, there are about 700 candidates world-wide according to
Bloomberg. But data on these very small stocks tends to be uneven at
best. Indeed, looking for Net Nets can be a good way to uncover database
errors and bankrupt companies. Nonetheless, you can occasionally spot
a gem or two.
But, before diving in, make sure you go the extra mile to check the
data and beware that many of these stocks are extraordinarily
illiquid. In such cases, market orders can lead to poverty. Buying
stocks indiscriminately from a Net Net list can be dangerous.
If it's dangerous, why bother? Because the returns have been quite
good as Montier showed in his article "Graham's net-nets: outdated or
outstanding?" which is in his book "Value Investing". (Hint: The
answer is outstanding.) You just have to sort through the dross.
The two tables below present raw data. To help discriminate between
the bankrupt companies and those that are not quite dead yet, I've
sorted them by Market Capitalization from high to low. It's not
perfect but broken companies usually appear lower down on the list.
Also, for NASDAQ stocks, a trailing Q in a 5 letter ticker symbol is a
bad sign.
Here are, the surprisingly long, lists of Canadian and U.S. stocks that
pass the Net Net test ...
Jason Zweig's article in last weekend's WSJ
chastised investors for their overly optimistic return expectations.
Problem is, it seems to me, that even Zweig's low expectations may
well be wildly optimistic.
But let's start with what got Jason all worked up. Evidently, "A
nationwide survey last year found that investors expect the U.S. stock
market to return an annual average of 13.7% over the next 10 years."
Those are some mighty high expectations. But you never know. There's
a small chance that a nice little bubble, or two, might get us there.
Anyway, Jason then tried to estimate "net net net" returns. (Not to
be confused with Benjamin Graham's "Net Net" stocks.) Jason's "net net net"
returns are returns after fees, taxes, and inflation.
Jason asked a few notable investors for their "net net net" return
estimates. William Bernstein was the optimist at 4%, Laurence Siegel
said 3%, John C. Bogle was keen on 2.5%, and Elroy Dimson was the
pessimist at 0.5%. But the makeup of the portfolios in question
wasn't clear. These estimates appear to be based on diversified stock
and bond portfolios.
Nonetheless, these estimates seem high to me even for all stock
portfolios. At least when it comes to the average investor. That's
because the experts have likely assumed that investors will minimize fees
and taxes (to the extent possible).
But instead of making projections, I like to look at historical
returns and then factor in the 4 horsemen of the return apocalypse.
I start with the annual returns for Canadian stocks
as represented by the S&P/TSX Composite. I then factor in poor
timing, fund fees, taxes, and inflation.
I assume that poor timing reduces returns by 3 percentage points a
year which may be on the conservative side. Fund fees come in at 2.5%
annually which is common for equity funds in Canada. I also assume
that capital gains taxes of 23% are levied annually.
It is very important to note that investors can work to reduce all of
these costs. (Inflation, the last horseman, is harder to deal with.)
How would an investor have fared when faced with such costs? The
results are shown in the graphs below. Just be warned, they ain't pretty.
Nearly every asset class we follow was up in 2009. The emerging
market index fared the best with gains of 54.5% but the good old
S&P/TSX took second spot with an advance of 35.1%. The only laggard
in 2009 was the U.S. bond index which got clipped by the surging
Canadian dollar and fell 12.1%.
A special thanks to Norbert Schlenker at Libra Investment Management
for collecting the raw data.
The book is a collection of Montier's recent articles and it
thankfully avoids becoming highly repetitive. More importantly,
several of the articles (on their own) are worth the modest price of
admission. So, pick up a copy.
You can get a taste of the great content by reading some of the
articles which I've found on the web.
Disclaimers: Consult with a qualified investment advisor before
trading. Past performance is a poor indicator of future performance.
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